How conversations end [observation]

[smoggrocks]

i find it interesting how conversations in cyberspace [eg, 'threads'] come to an end. because no one ever says, 'okay, conversation ending!' [unless it gets locked]. they just come to a close naturally.

it reminds me of musical conversations, actually. solos and songs. it seems there's this magical point in time where it just feels right to cut things off. sometimes that's 20 minutes. sometimes its 2. i used to really enjoy watching my b.friend take a solo when we were playing together, coz i felt like i could read where he was gonna go next, and when he was gonna go there. and in thinking of recorded tunes performed live, it's interesting to see where and how the artist decides to cut the tune, when it was a regular fade on the cd. 

i have a chum who i find really lacking in this area. she seems very un-attuned to how this works in day-to-day email chit-chat. the conversation will start, build, then end, but she always has to send ONE MORE EMAIL that just says, 'ok,' or 'yeah.' kinda kills the whole vibe.

anyhow, just an observation.   


[now watch. no one will reply to this and i'll feel extra stupid] :-X

[Dave Heim]

i find it interesting how conversations in cyberspace [eg, 'threads'] come to an end. because no one ever says, 'okay, conversation ending!' [unless it gets locked]. they just come to a close naturally.

it reminds me of musical conversations, actually. solos and songs. it seems there's this magical point in time where it just feels right to cut things off. sometimes that's 20 minutes. sometimes its 2. i used to really enjoy watching my b.friend take a solo when we were playing together, coz i felt like i could read where he was gonna go next, and when he was gonna go there. and in thinking of recorded tunes performed live, it's interesting to see where and how the artist decides to cut the tune, when it was a regular fade on the cd. 

i have a chum who i find really lacking in this area. she seems very un-attuned to how this works in day-to-day email chit-chat. the conversation will start, build, then end, but she always has to send ONE MORE EMAIL that just says, 'ok,' or 'yeah.' kinda kills the whole vibe.

anyhow, just an observation.   


[now watch. no one will reply to this and i'll feel extra stupid] :-X

ok

[Christopher]

ok

right

;)

[smoggrocks]

exactly.











why youuuuuu little.............!!!!!

[Matt Self (Gaddabout)]

As someone who ALWAYS has something else to say or write, I find myself conciously avoiding over-posting on a subject. I hate it when I dominate a thread just because I have the time and a penchant for saying the same thing 10 different ways. I've purposefully walked away from threads where I had more thoughts just because I felt everyone has a limit on how much input they'll receive from one person. I'm sure I cross that threshold on most threads.

I also enjoy when threads get diverted when everything has been said on the title, because I'd rather discuss the diversion based on the same train of thought that inspired it than start a new thread reintroducing the concept. OTOH, most people HATE off-topic conversations because they only have a little bit of time to wade through the topics that most interest them. I try hard to keep that in mind, too.

I guess there's never really any satisfying end to a thread for me. Just a forced motive to look for something else to comment on.

I'm like that woman at the party talking where George S. Kaufman suddenly interjects: "Madam, do you have any unexpressed thoughts?"

[Larry Lawless]

Not sure where this quote is from, but it seems apropos:

"Some pieces of music go on too long after the end."

[Louis Russell]

Not sure where this quote is from, but it seems apropos:

"Some pieces of music go on too long after the end."

Actually the quote is "Too many pieces of music finish too long after the end." - Igor Stravinsky (1882-1971).  And, that is the truth more than I like. 

[David Jung]

And, that is the truth more than I like. 

yep.

[Riker]

Neat!

[TheBeachBoy]

Yeah

[William Leslie]

over and out.

[Danno]

ok.

[David Jung]

Roger that.

[Dave Heim]

Word

[Danno]

gotcha

[sjm1112]

"...must fight urge to continue thread...."    :-X

I give up

I hear ya....

[Bob Pettit]

Actually the quote is "Too many pieces of music finish too long after the end." - Igor Stravinsky (1882-1971).  And, that is the truth more than I like. 

Pop 40 has this down to a science, 2.5 minutes and out....

i have a chum who i find really lacking in this area. she seems very un-attuned to how this works in day-to-day email chit-chat. the conversation will start, build, then end, but she always has to send ONE MORE EMAIL that just says, 'ok,' or 'yeah.' kinda kills the whole vibe.

This sort of thing can hold true in face to face conversation. I feel akward at times, once we said what we've said, then what? Say goodbye and walk out? Just walk out without saying more?

Sometimes I feel my own language fits me like a poor suit of clothes. Culturally I don't watch TV, follow sports, haven't seen the latest beer commercial or have a clue who made the big touch down. People laugh at jokes I don't get, cause you got to be hip to what happened on the comedy show last night.

I have good communication skills, but have learned it really matters who I'm speaking to. I was brought up small town Oregon, kind of slow talking, taught to shut up and listen when others speak, not interupt. I was taught/consider interuption rude, and usually shut up myself then, listen to the interuptor, not get my point across. I often walk away from a conversation feeling I could tell you what the other person said, but they couldn't me.

So, this is why I like drum sticks instead of lips!

I'm leaving now. See you later. Bye.

[chefdoug]

So are we done here?

I'm going now.....

really...I am.......I swear

[Drum Slave Jack]

Hmmmm who can kill the joke first?

[Danno]

I have good communication skills, but have learned it really matters who I'm speaking to. I was brought up small town Oregon, kind of slow talking, taught to shut up and listen when others speak, not interupt. I was taught/consider interuption rude, and usually shut up myself then, listen to the interuptor, not get my point across. I often walk away from a conversation feeling I could tell you what the other person said, but they couldn't me.

So, this is why I like drum sticks instead of lips!

I'm leaving now. See you later. Bye.

Okey-dokey.

[sjm1112]

Yeah...did you get the memo? We are using the new cover sheets on the TPS reports....yeah..

[David Jung]

Elvis has left the building.

[Danno]

Elvis has left the building.

Copy that.

[David Jung]

<tap tap tap>

Is this thing on?

[yankeeboy13]

yeah

[yves]

Hey all!

I'm new here..... I've been to the site before but never took the time to participate in the forums.

I decided to sign up.

I'm 31 years old, have been playing for 19 years. I've played in a variety of acts... Thrash metal (back in the day...  ;) ), Classic rock, prog rock, top 40 rock,  blues, country (that's right), jazz, gospel... been trying to learn to play (with feel of course) latin rhythms. I love latin jazz type stuff. I love music in general...

I've played many different live scenarios, like support for an Elvis impersonator, a Roy Orbison impersonator (that was super cool.... the Elvis guy was too)...

I have not been playing live very much recently... but highlights from last year were playing an  http://www.ecma.ca/]ECMA 2006  main stage showcase and also playing a  http://www.junoawards.ca/]Juno 2006  showcase.

I've been putting a new band together over the last several months called  http://www.myspace.com/redsandtribe]Red Sand Tribe  (you can hear some tunes here on our bass player  http://www.myspace.com/garthblake]Garth Blake's  page..... I am not on those recordings.)

Anyways.... cheers!

[Danno]

Hey all!

Hey!

All right then.

[yves]

Ah crap... I clicked on the wrong link for my first post...

What a great first impression!

:o

[Danno]

Ah crap... I clicked on the wrong link for my first post...

What a great first impression!

:o

That's okay, Yves! Listen, I personally have never made even the slightest error here at Drummer Cafe, but others here have made many grievous errors indeed, most of them much more horrible than your innocent faux pas. I have these numerous mistakes catalogued if you're interested - send me a PM. I name names.


All right.

[yves]

That's okay, Yves! Listen, I personally have never made even the slightest error here at Drummer Cafe, but others here have made many grievous errors indeed, most of them much more horrible than your innocent faux pas. I have these numerous mistakes catalogued if you're interested - send me a PM. I name names.


All right.

That sounds like a great deal.

;D

[Danno]

That sounds like a great deal.

;D

O.K.

[sjm1112]

Yep

[memfodrumma]

Ah crap... I clicked on the wrong link for my first post...

What a great first impression!

:o

You know, making a mistake like that is kinda like a great blues singer clearing theirthoat before they begin wail a great blue tunes. Yeah it sounds bad but what comes after should be awesome........ Welcome to the forum

[David Jung]

Welcome to the forum

Ditto.

[smoggrocks]

**folds arms, taps foot**


SO --

given that it was the main thrust of this post, does anyone have thoughts on 'the musical conversations' aspect? that was really my point.

if not, i nominate closing the thread, so we don't eat up bart's $$$


[not being beyotchy, just mindful!] ;)

[Dave Heim]

. . .
it reminds me of musical conversations, actually. solos and songs. it seems there's this magical point in time where it just feels right to cut things off. sometimes that's 20 minutes. sometimes its 2. i used to really enjoy watching my b.friend take a solo when we were playing together, coz i felt like i could read where he was gonna go next, and when he was gonna go there. and in thinking of recorded tunes performed live, it's interesting to see where and how the artist decides to cut the tune, when it was a regular fade on the cd.. . .

Ah yes, you mean the point quoted above!  :)

I agree that it seems songs often tend to find their way out.  But I've heard plenty that seem to go on too long - as if they don't know where to end.  American Pie comes to mind.  Nice tune, but it just kinda drones on after a while.  Any other endings - good or bad - come to mind?

[smoggrocks]

thanks, dave!

american pie is a good eg, though i do like that.

honestly, i think some of the tunes in my new band are longer than necessary. i don't really like repeating verses and choruses add infinitum.

but at least they 'build'!